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Re: [ox-en] Germ of a new form of society or germ of a new form of business?



On 26 Jan 2004 at 1:30, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:

As I have said many times, the true engineer chooses the best
tools available.

I never saw an ad for hiring a 'true engineer'. Licensing is part of
the world engineers live in, and refusing to deal with it is simply
not a good idea.

Niall can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think he is against
dealing with licenses. He's just against dealing with licenses that
aren't the embodiment of his personal definition of free software.

Rather those that aren't good for the software itself.

However on the general subject of licenses, I think copyright a bad 
set of laws to protect computer software. Software is a solution to 
an engineering problem and thus is more like a pump than a book. It 
should have its own custom legal framework.

AFAIK he has not offered us an example of an ideal license except to
say it is more free than the GPL but less free than the BSD. Free as
defined in his terms of course.

If the LGPL were clearer and didn't have clause 3, it'd be my perfect 
"commons" license. As for my idea for an improved free software 
license, I posted some thoughts about that in reply to Robin Green's 
question. I'd need a lawyer to make a real license though :(

Not for political, legal nor philosophical grounds

If you want to exclude political and philosophical grounds from the
debate, then why are you on this list in the first place?

Niall is talking about economics which is fully on topic with this
list AIUI. I don't want to chase him off because we disagree with his
position. So far he's been mostly respectful of folks and added a
useful perspective.

Well no one can claim mine to be conventional views! :)

I should also mention that I didn't barge in here with these 
particular views (quite a different set actually). They were in reply 
to a question for elaboration. They will be offensive to some, but I 
hope food for thought for the majority. It does no one any harm to 
have their belief-set jigged up once in a while (I had some jehovah's 
witnesses turn up today, and we spent a half hour with them trying 
very hard to convert me. I always invite them in for a chat and to 
give them credit, they have tried many times now. I think they view 
me as a good test of their faith! :)

Cheers,
Niall






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