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The problem is of course bigger than that. There is an interesting Oexonux theory and a dirty reality out there--and the gap between these two is becoming bigger by the day. Yet, this cannot really be discussed. The debate are becoming less and less and are going in circles exactly because the definitions might be in principle right... but they do not explain anything much, nor do they connect to a radical political practice in the field of floss (which is what really should be a worry).
The fact that floss perfectly fits into capitalism is indeed too bad, strange, to be expected, very good... yes, indeed... what?
Best, Geert On 5 Dec 2005, at 12:36 PM, Michael Bouwens wrote:
[Converted from multipart/alternative] [1 text/plain] Geert,You are very short with your critique. Do you mean the trend that it is increasingly embedded in the market economy?Are these issues discussed in a better way in other forums? Can we learn something from them?Michel "Geert Lovink [c]" <geert xs4all.nl> wrote: On 4 Dec 2005, at 2:54 PM, Franz Nahrada wrote:We are in a major shift hereWhich major shift? I must have missed something. All I see on this list is stagnation, repetition of arguments and a major disengagement with the complex world of floss and where it is heading. Geert _________________________________ Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ Contact: projekt oekonux.de --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less [2 text/html] _________________________________ Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ Contact: projekt oekonux.de
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