[ox-en] Social Web and trustworthiness
- From: Michael Bauwens <michelsub2003 yahoo.com>
- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:04:30 -0700 (PDT)
Stefan,
I wonder if this makes sense. I'm increasing making distinctions between on the one hand, individual sharing vs. common production dynamics (giving the sharing and commons economy model, with different dynamics and licensing formats), and also, production for use value vs. exchange value.
In the case of common-oriented group production for use value, revenue sharing and monetary incentives are very counterproductive, and I feel that benefit sharing is a good concept and approach. It says that in the case of non-reciprocal engagement, a non-reciprocal return, i.e. general return to the community as a whole, is the best way forward.
In the case of individual minipreneurial self or co-design, revenue sharing is a requirement however.
An interesting side argument is that money has a cost itself, which is also counterproductive see, http://p2pfoundation.net/Coordination_Costs
I also find the following argument compelling, nl. that in peer production, enterpreneurship and capitalism starts diverging, see
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-peer-production-transcends-capitalism-entrepreneurs-vs-capitalists-for-benefit-vs-for-profit/2007/09/20
See for background at the http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Design category:
http://p2pfoundation.net/Revenue_Sharing
http://p2pfoundation.net/Benefit_Sharing
http://p2pfoundation.net/For_Benefit
http://p2pfoundation.net/Crowdfunding
http://p2pfoundation.net/Minipreneurs_-_Resources
http://p2pfoundation.net/Co-Design
http://p2pfoundation.net/Co-Creation
The P2P Foundation researches, documents and promotes peer to peer alternatives.
Wiki and Encyclopedia, at http://p2pfoundation.net; Blog, at http://blog.p2pfoundation.net; Newsletter, at http://integralvisioning.org/index.php?topic=p2p
Basic essay at http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=499; interview at http://poynder.blogspot.com/2006/09/p2p-very-core-of-world-to-come.html; video interview, at http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/09/29/network_collaboration_peer_to_peer.htm
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From: Stefan Merten <smerten oekonux.de>
To: list-en oekonux.org
Cc: Stefan Merten <smerten oekonux.de>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:44:46 PM
Subject: [ox-en] Social Web and trustworthiness
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Hi!
I just read an article in the German computer magazine c't (10/2007,
p.142).
The article discusses how trustworthiness can be created in Social
Web. The main focus of the article is on how comments about products
can be made trustworthy to users. This is interesting for firms to
gather information about their products - and can be dangerous when
"negative" information is listed there.
Two times the article highlights how bad alienated motivations are
(translations by me):
The way to the success of such an approach [to make competitions for
a new design or a new product - StefanMn] leads over a reward.
Direct payment of winning contributions is one option but not always
necessary. The chance to see a designed advertisement poster printed
can be reward enough for the junior designer. "According to our
findings giving goodies results in many users contributing only
because of this" says Matthias B., boss of an agency [...]. The
results get not better because of this.
And:
Nobody pays for this [writing comments about products which are
later sold to online shops and price comparsion machines -
StefanMn]: "As soon as users are payed or get an artificial currency
as reward the service provider buys all the negative excesses [like
spam - StefanMn] inclusive." [says the manager of another firm -
StefanMn].
It's the same again here: As soon as alienated motivations get into
play the quality drops.
To me this emphasizes once more that in the current stage of
development of productive forces alienated incentives like money more
and more become a hindrance instead of an advantage.
Grüße
Stefan
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