Re: [ox-en] Jacques Wajnsztejn's new book

• From: Stefan Merten <smerten oekonux.de>
• Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:52:54 +0100

Hi all!

Last week (13 days ago) Stefan Meretz wrote:

On 2007-11-15 20:49, graham wrote:

IMO we have at most a coexistence of value and non-value based
production.  I wonder if you could create a classification of
contemporary left groups based on their attitude to these two types
of position:

- Non-value based production already dominates (operaisti)
- Non-value based production is largely irrelevant, since it does not
produce value (traditional marxists)
- non-value based production is the potential seed of a new society
(Stefans?)

Ok with me.

+1 Stefan

- non-value/value based production coexist as the potential base of
two different modes of production, inside one unstable social
formation (me, I get a division to myself..)

Ok too, not a contradiction to the former one. I prefer to think this
ambiguous coexistence in "five steps":
http://en.wiki.oekonux.org/StefanMeretz/GermformTheory

+1 Stefan

- and Krisis, where would they fit?

Krisis focusses on "negative" critiques saying that the value-based
production is melting down which leads to crisis (nomen est omen...).
They do not say much about alternatives in a positive way, they only
say, what must not exist in an emancipatory society: no value, no
exchange, no market, no state etc. -- I agree with that. However,
personally I want to go a bit further a think about sources (seeds) of
a new mode of production and societal mediation.

+1 Stefan

Seems like the Stefans indeed build a contemporary left group. What
about StefanS? ;-)


						Grüße

						Stefan

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