Re: [ox-en] The Ideology of Free Culture and the Grammar of Sabotage
- From: Michael Bauwens <michelsub2003 yahoo.com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:45:49 -0800 (PST)
Mine was not meant to be abusive ...
and Dmytri, there is really no need to psychologize arguments, like "being defensive", I can't speak for Graham, but it does certainly not correspond to my feeling and intention.
I was just legitimately pointing to the misinterpretation and straw men argument that starts the argument, and the mouse born of the elephantine effort at the end, the sabotage proposal.
By contrast, the oekonux community, far from ignoring the class struggle, is co-constructing an understanding of the most important social processes of the day, and each in our own way, are collaborating on the construction of the new world, by actively creating and supporting various open and free initiatives, something altogether different than merely sabotaging.
I try to be positive in most of my dialogues, but I can entirely understand that Graham is fed up with the nihilism that is exhibited in some quarters, it leads nowhere, and in fact, it is there that the 'whining' is located, if anywhere,
See below, something seems wrong in my reply function, i.e. very short line breaks, anyone with an idea of how to change this?
----- Original Message ----
From: graham <graham theseamans.net>
To: list-en oekonux.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:02:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ox-en] The Ideology of Free Culture and the Grammar of Sabotage
Be a better friend, newshound, and
know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Contact: projekt oekonux.de