Re: [ox-en] "Trading at Cost" with joule tokens
- From: "Franz Nahrada" <f.nahrada reflex.at>
- Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:11:47 +0100
Marc
the argument against money refers to the joules alike.
1. It is never sure how many joules are really in a product. Tom can
produce with 10Mjoule while Jill can do the same thing with 5Mjoule.
2. If too much of a product is produced, how to count the "lost joules" ?
3. If productivity changes, the product not yet being sold: old Joules or
new Joules?
and so on.
Its a big sigh for me, there is no absolute measure for value and
distribution cannot be based on sure grounds unless the quantity and
quality is fixed before by agreements between the producers. Then the
whole measurement in one abstract quantity of labor is useless and
senseless.
What matters is that
Tom made it and wants to give it to the world without starving himself.
That's why artists give away music, or why software developers make free
and
open source software. It's the creative impulse that exists within all of
us. What this model allows that the current does not is for John to give
back Tom the average energy Tom put into producing and delivering the
product to John. This means that Tom does not make a profit, but he will
not
starve due to giving things for free.
So its much more important to keep people from starvation than to measure
their contribution.
Its much more important than ever, because by the increasing intellectual
nature of labor and the reproduceability by digital means the idea of
measuring any contribution has grown absurd.
Society cannot but refuge to a sort of need - production matrix, based on
basic needs and assurance of basic needs. Or keep the whole unsolveable
money problem and deal with it for the next thousand years.
Franz
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