RE: [ox-en] linux & manufacturing
- From: michel.bauwens belgacom.be
- Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:51:09 +0200
Hi Stefan,
I'm not reading the postings with the necessary attention due to a lot of overwork recently, but I am wondering whether the following argument has been made:
- if one extracts from the free software phenomena the peer to peer way of producing knowledge
- then one can really see how today, capitalism is based on increasing forms of cooperation, and in fact, the very model of one to one production and mass-customised forms of manufacturing, are based on the externalising of production to clients themselves. See how Mindstorm and Aibo clients are extending the possiblities of their favorite products. Hence my conclusion: peer to peer is really the emerging form of social production, though the system does not recognise it, and tries to encapsulate p2p in classic forms of domination and exploitation, but that tension is becoming greater by the day.
I am in the process of writing an essay, and the main gist is that we extract peer to peer from free software, as a more enduring and generalised paradigm, then that gives not only extraordinary descriptive force to describe what's going on, but also prospective force, as peer to peer really is an emerging value and form of subjectivity that can be promoted and has enormous consequences ...
hope to finish this essay one of these days ... <g>
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From: Stefan Merten [smerten oekonux.de]
Sent: 08 July 2002 12:05
To: list-en oekonux.org
Cc: Stefan Merten
Subject: Re: [ox-en] linux & manufacturing
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Hi Graham and list!
Yesterday Graham Seaman wrote:
http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/07/04/2352223.shtml?tid=23
is this their economy starting to become dependent on ours (the old mode
of production being edged out by the new)?
Well the new mode of production (Free Software) is more effective.
That goes to the heart of the argument saying that Free Software shows
that it is a way of production being more effective than the old
(capitalist) ways.
But they do not become dependent in the sense they depend on M$ or
other proprietary software vendors. The article even said, that at
least partially they have their own software people writing the
software for their assembly lines.
or part of linux being absorbed
by commercial interests (IBM using linux as a tool to grab market share)?
or both?
Both I guess. I think that's another example of the fact that Free
Software can indeed be used by capitalism. I see this as a sign of
Free Software being a synthesis pointing to a new form.
The critical question is whether Free Software - aka the germ form -
can be absorbed by capitalism. I still don't think so.
Mit Freien Grüßen
Stefan
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