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[ox-en] Dave Winer: Nutch, an open source search engine



(fwd. from bytesforall-readers list. geert)

From: DaveNet email <dave scripting.com>
To: DaveNet World <davenet-world scripting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:26 PM
Subject: Nutch, an open source search engine

DaveNet essay, "Nutch, an open source search engine", released on
8/13/2003; 6:32:36 AM Eastern.
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***Two horses, please

Every time Google gets competition, I hope that this is the one that
sticks, the one that makes search a two horse race.

As a heavy user of search, I know this is not a good situation, one
Silicon Valley company with so much power. When one of them takes hold
it's as if we have a new royal family, people who breathe air that's
finer than ours. They "get" things we don't. They think outside the
box, we're stuck inside.

Every time around the loop I wonder if this time it might be
different, that instead of getting a royal family, we might get some
Minutemen, destined to win the revolution, people ready for the long
haul, anxious to work with others on equal terms, who want to win so
bad they see the brilliance that's not on their payroll. A company
that wants to be built into the infrastructure the way leading
technology companies are, not alone and singular like so many Silicon
Valley phenoms.

So when Teoma showed signs of life, we hoped. We hoped when Yahoo
bought Overture, with each rumor about Longhorn, and now with Nutch,
an open source search engine that people seem very excited about.


***What I know about Nutch

I first heard about Nutch at a lunch in Cambridge last week with John
Battelle, a visiting professor at UC Berkeley, and former editor of
the high-flying dotcom journal The Industry Standard. He has been
watching Nutch in his role as a columnist for Business 2.0.

After the lunch I did a Google search [1] for Nutch, found it;
confirming some but not all of what Battelle told me. So I linked [2]
to it on Scripting News and waited to see what would come next.

On Monday, Gary Price summarized [3], on his weblog, a Battelle
article in Business 2.0 with lots of details about Nutch. Everything
Battelle told me, and more, was on the record. So I linked [4] to
Price's summary saying that Nutch is "an open source search engine
that aims to dethrone Google."

Last night I got an email from Nutch board member Tim O'Reilly.
"Actually, Nutch has no ambitions to dethrone Google. It's just trying
to provide an open source reference implementation of search to help
keep Google and other search engines honest, by letting people compare
the results of an engine whose algorithms and methodologies are
transparent and accessible. It also aims to give a platform for people
outside of the search heavyweights to research new search algorithms."

Excellent. Keeping Google honest is good, I'd also like them to be
hungry and on their toes.

Lots of developers, myself included, would love to be able to tweak up
the ranking algorithms of a search engine. Let's hope that Nutch makes
it easy to do that.

Open source might be just the right thing for search, right now.

We'll be watching this one, carefully.

Dave Winer

[1] http://www.google.com/search?q=nutch
[2] http://www.nutch.org/
[3] http://tinyurl.com/jnpm
[4] http://scriptingnews.userland.com/2003/08/11#When:10:12:06AM

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(c) Copyright 1994-2003, Dave Winer. http://davenet.userland.com/.
Founder, UserLand Software, Inc; Berkman Fellow, Harvard Law School.


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