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Re: [ox-en] Theses about the relation between the Oekonux project and the remaining world

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Hi Graham and all,

On Samstag 04 Oktober 2003 01:18, Graham Seaman wrote:

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Christian Siefkes wrote:

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Graham Seaman wrote:

Rassists and neo-nazis? Anti-Semits?


Have you seen such people on oekonux?


No, and I don't think it likely they would come. But it's
not just a idle question, considering the anti-globalization
movement. There the occurence of nationalist and anti-Semite
views is a serious problem, and parts of the movement fail
to clearly react and dissociate oneself from such positions
(cf. the discussion in the German section of Attac). I think
that's partly due to the unwillingness to take a political
position beyond some or other "question of interest",
specifically by the unwillingness to consider oneselves
"left".


If neo-nazism becomes a problem within the oekonux lists then
we will have to do something about it. Declaring ourselves
'left' now doesn't remove the (very small) possibility of it
becoming a problem in the future; declaring ourselves 'left'
then won't solve it if it has become a problem. The important
thing is what we do, not the label.


The question that occured recently on the [pox] list was not 
whether Oekonux is a 'leftist' project or not. Instead, the 
issue was that there was an offer to merge the Oekonux 
conference with another conference, the 'Austrian Social Forum'. 
The ASF will be ten times as big than the Oekonux conference, 
and that project consideres itself 'left'. In return, Oekonux 
would get almost the complete infrastructure for its conference 
from the ASF.

However, Stefan Mn. has categorically denied this offer, arguing 
that an outsider might get the false impression that Oekonux is 
a leftist project, and some who don't consider themselves 'left' 
might even feel not invited.

I think that these fears are farly exaggerated, and that it would 
have been possible to clarify within the announcements that 
Oekonux is a project that is open for everybody. I think, the 
question whether the ASF would have a problem with this openness 
is more interesting. 

cu,
Thomas }:o{#
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