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Re: [ox-en] Opensourcing the automobile world?


There's already an implementation of this... (Well - one way of doing it I guess)
I'm a bit surprised this is not mentioned in the article...

I have no idea if this is being used or liked... Perhaps someone in the bay area has experience with this?

This model does nothing to eliminate the per-person ecological cost so I'm not too impressed with it.

Franz Nahrada wrote:

See below: It seems just like a vague challenge but who else should take
up the challenge? I do not know which answer they give in part 2, but
which answers would WE have?
I take the liberty to post this to two lists with the hope that this does
not lead to further crossposting, but participation of more people in the
redherring challenge. Oekonux is a list explicitely dedicated to the
transfer of FLOSS principles to other domains - and Minciu Sodas is a
loose but dedicated virtual community of independent thinkers who have
dealt intelligently with transportation issues in the past. So its not
exactly a virtual flash mob thats to be declared here, but a certain
widespread attention in order to show the power of collective wisdom.

The Future: A solution for bad traffic, pt. 1

Eyeing open source to ease congestion on the roadways.
May 28, 2004

Traffic in Silicon Valley is terrible. Not surprising: according to a recent San Jose Mercury News column, there are now 4.5 million cars in the Bay Area, logging 167 million miles every day — over 5 billion miles a year. Cars pollute the environment, adversely affect our quality of life, and make the Bay Area less attractive and productive. So why don't we have more public transportation? The existing light rail system isn't very heavily used, and recent projections suggest that ridership on the area’s Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) train will go down in coming decades.

The Bay Area is a patchwork of small governments, which adds complexity to any big infrastructure project. A bottom-up approach doesn't work well for mass transit systems, which have to be carefully knit together to attract riders. And for better or worse, today's voters aren't very enthusiastic about large public spending projects, and California isn't exactly flush with cash.
Further, the changes required to turn the Bay Area into a place where large-scale public transportation would really work shouldn't be underestimated. Proponents of public transportation argue that the region's high cost of living would be lowered if we could build high-density housing served by light-rail trains that would make cars unnecessary. Essentially, we'd have to transform the Valley from a sprawl of suburbs and towns into something more like Manhattan or Tokyo — a sprawl of cities.

And, frankly, most people like cars better than public transportation. They like the convenience of being able to go exactly from Point A to Point B, exactly when they want. There are some other experiments in reducing traffic and the need for car ownership. There are vanpools, shuttles that run between train stations and corporate parks, and car-sharing services. These have loyal users — I rode in a vanpool between Berkeley and Davis (one hour away) for several years — but they're not widely popular. Many of the freeways have carpool lanes, but as anyone who drives during rush hour knows, the existence of these lanes hasn't generated much of a carpooling movement. (When you realize that there are 4.5 million cars and 6.5 million people in the Bay Area, the lack of traffic in the carpool lanes makes more sense.)

It seems an intractable problem. In a region that is not as densely built up as a real city, in which it's hard to live without a car, public transportation is always going to be less attractive than privately-owned transportation. But there's a possible solution, and it comes from an unlikely place: the open source movement. Maybe the answer is to tweak the rules of ownership, to create a system that hooks up drivers and passengers in real time, and creates incentives to share the road. Maybe the answer is to create a public transportation system out of automobiles.

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