Re: [ox-en] Re: Importance of price
- From: Michael Bauwens <michelsub2003 yahoo.com>
- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:08:34 -0800 (PST)
Thanks for your comments Franz, I'm happy that you seem to be doing fine, that the operation went well. I will reply more on this later, as I'm on the road for the moment,
Michel
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----- Original Message ----
From: Franz Nahrada <f.nahrada reflex.at>
To: list-en oekonux.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:26:11 PM
Subject: Re: [ox-en] Re: Importance of price
list-en oekonux.org writes:
If you get specific payment for peer production, then it is no longer
peer production, this is not just 'some' danger, but actually fatal
(though of course it can be free software as property format)
I dont agree, there CAN be circumstances where payment supports peer
production and is very viable to make it work. From the
sponsored
Oekonux
conference to IBMs billion dollar investment in Linux there is a lot of
"meeting ground". Funds can be directed so the outcome is
beneficial
for
both sides. I see the P2P foundations function in future as a
channel
for
such funding - thats also a bitter challenge with lots of corruption
dangers.
A macro-solution is the provision of a generalized
nonconditional
income
which allows peer production to occur
Microsolution is companies hiring peer producers but paying them
unconditionally, so that peer production can occur
Both solutions are very unlikely to happen unless there is an economic
incentive to the moneyholders or to the state.
A medium solution would be a set of transitional labour
market
policies
which would ease various transitions between peer production and the
market.
Thats the Frithjof Bergmann Solution - but still it has not been
tested
in
reality. The incentive is that peer production gradually
complements
the
dying "welfare state".
Companies can also provide 'benefit-sharing' to support the 'general
infrastructure' of the commons on which they depend.
Yes - that could be a CSR issue, Corporate Social responsibility, but
where do they direct their funds? Here we are again at the beginning.
Franz
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