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[ox-en] Re: [ox-en] Re: [ox-en] Re: Material peer production (was: Re: [ox-en]Motto for the 4th conference)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:40:12 -0800 (PST), Michael Bauwens
<michelsub2003> wrote:

If you think the non-reciprocal aspects of peer
production is confused,


Hi Micheal, I am out of time for oekonux for the day, I will take a look

and try to explain how the free contributions to free
software and the wikipedia can be explained in any
other way than through what fiske calls communal


People contribute to free software because they need it in their own
production to or for wages paid by others who need for production.

This includes potential wages that motivate doing unpaid or underpaid work,
hoping to increase ones labour value through exposure and skills
development,this is not different than interns and apprentices in any 
field who do unpaid or underpaid work hoping to increase their labour 

However, economically, the reason wages are available for the development
of free software is because it is an input to production, having a common
stock of information assets helps create more wealth, and this wealth
is the source of the motivation.

that is NOT what is commonly understood under peer

IMO, peer production is not commonly understood, rather commonly

Co-operatives are not necessarily composed of independent equals
working on a common stock of productive assets. This, to me,
is peer production.

however, there are interpretations of it as a gift
economy, but that just doesn't work in explaining peer

A gift economy is reciprocal too.

basically the scheme is one whereby every corporation
is owned by both its workers (less than half) and its
consumers/users (more than half, since price is more
than cost); this insures that these corporations are
working for social needs, and the market is
'integrated' inside the corporation (since user demand
is automatically included),not an external feature of

Interesting. I would especially be interested in how the
author imagined such a society coming about.

Thanks Michel.

Dmytri Kleiner
editing text files since 1981

Contact: projekt

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