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Re: [ox-en] There is no such thing like "peer money"

Hello Michel,

I thinking I'm slightly revising my notion of the role of money in peer
production, based on the actual evidence. So bear with me as I develop this

thx for this posting. i agree with your main conclusions. money is just a tool and it depends on what people do with it (how many people on this list could effectively do "good" had they money?)

imv, the question is not whether or not "money" should be a part of open movement projects, but how to successfully introduce money and money-like "creation facilitators" with a view to maximise investment of time, knowledge, creativity and capital. imv this requires an (i) objective analysis of the benefits of the investment drivers "money" and "selbstentfaltung" and its drawbacks, followed (ii) by creative solutions combining the benefits of the two drivers. much what vn is about.

i perhaps disagree (if i understand your posting correctly) with the lack of influence of financial contributors and with giving them no control what happens to the money in order to have "independent maintainers". to me it seems that - especially in a p2p world with lots of small individual contributors - its actually very benefitial to let them directly decide what happens with their money because (i) the influence of the individual is so small, and (ii) it certainly will stimulate capital investment if the donator, member, sponsor has some control and influence what happens to his/her money. i think the danger that the project goes in a single, community-adverse direction because of payments, simply doesnt exist in a p2p world because of the numerous micro-investors. whats so bad if people can distribute their membership fee or donations on specific projects (the list can be prepared by maintainers)?

thx Franz for pointing me to Andrius by putting your quality on his work.


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