[ox-en] oekonux conference in amsterdam (!?)
- From: Geert Lovink <geert xs4all.nl>
- Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 03:17:06 +0100
over the past weeks some people have had a cc:: dialogue about the
possibility to host the next Oekonux conference in Amsterdam. No time
has been set yet but it might be late 2005 or early 2006.
There is no clearly identifiable group in Amsterdam that could host the
event. And this is why I am writing to both lists. We are in a bit of a
chicken and egg situation. Before we can give the green light we need a
group, but without the green light, that the event is going to take in
Amsterdam, it is also unlikely that 'Oekonux' people in the Amsterdam
region (whoever that may be) will gather.
So, if you live in Amsterdam, or nearby, and would like to come to a
prep meeting to discuss the necessity (and desires!) to do an Oekonux
event in Amsterdam, please let me know.
Jaap of ascii (the linux squat workshop) is already involved and wants
to join the group. There are few others who already have shown
The good thing about doing it in Amsterdam is of course that it's gonna
be the first time that Oekonux will have its meeting outside the German
speaking region. It would also reflect the increased
internationalization of the project.
Good things about Amsterdam are the cheap flights, the coffee shops ;),
but it's also a relatively expensive place in terms of hotels and food.
It's obviously touristic and increasingly boring because of the yuppies
who have taken over virtually the whole town. The dutch anti
intellectualism and populism is also sort of a challenge, but that
could also be interesting one, to kick all you Hegelians of your clouds
and confront the ignorant Dutch with their organized stupidity.
Serious. Here, a lot of (young) people believe that to have ideas and
talk about them is already 'totalitarian'. Its much better to shut up
and party. I just attended a FLOSS meeting in my school were someone
seriously denied that floss was based on ideas. For him it was just
pragmatic, though expensive software. Only fundamentalists have ideas
and the war on terror is a war against them. Root them out.
Now I am drifting off, but perhaps you get the idea of what the good
and bad sides are of doing such an event in Amsterdam. Hosting it in
Berlin or Barcelona, for instance, would make much more sense, but he,
let's discuss that.
Organization: projekt oekonux.de