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Re: [ox-en] Re: Local economies and Gesellian theory

Hi Ernie!

More interesting than your answers is what you do not answer ;-) .

2 days ago ernie yacub wrote:
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 01:38, Stefan Merten wrote:

how the argentinians used cc to weather their economic meltdown,4273,4243942,00.html

[Can't read the article because being offline.] Yes, but Argentina is
such a case of a set of very special conditions - namely being
excluded from the global market by having no more national currency.

most people in the world don't have enough normal money and poverty is endemic
within rich countries as well.

And it's also an example that this type of currency needs such special
conditions and as soon they vanish they crash.

as above, poverty does not vanish, it only gets worse.

Well, it didn't work when the conditions get better again (in terms of
capitalist economy which served Argentinian people very well for a
couple of decades). In addition the community currencies worked only
in the country so people were not able to buy on the global market.

So at least in this large scale example your model doesn't work if the
environment gets friendlier in terms of capitalist economy. Also
people are always restricted to local commodities and services. As a
result your model may work only if the Gesellian world revolution
happened and capitalism is abolished everywhere - at least to a large
degree. You have all those against you who are better off now because
they have nothing to gain and you have not much to offer to the poor
until the Gesellian world revolution. Well, I probably should wish you
good luck ;-) .

the other thing you might consider is how cc will enable software
developers to be paid for their "free" work instead of working for
megacorps and developing shareware on the side in their own time.

Well, IMHO this is probably the best way to destroy Free Software.

and i would argue that it is the way to proliferate open source coding and pay
the developers.

they have to eat don't they?

Some people collect stamps or play music as their hobby. They also do
not get paid for it but instead sometimes spend large amounts of money
on their hobby. Some people travel far during their vacation spending
lots of money. All of them have to eat. So I guess you will pay stamp
collectors and amateur musicians and travelling is at least free for
all - if not also paid. Well, again I guess I should wish you good
luck ;-) .

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