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Michael Bouwens wrote:
In any case, I decided at one point that no progress could be expected from any corporate machines, and not from the political machines that they now almost completely control. On the other hand, civil society was thriving through internet experimentation, the social had taken over the dotcom era, and new participatory technologies were being developed at breakneck speed, creating all kinds of sharing practices and communities of exchange. Seeing this is what decided me to break with the corporate world, and to eventually create p2pfoundation.net However, it seems that we are seeing a revival of corporate change thinking recently: the social capital movement, bottom of the pyramid movements, social entrepreneurship, purpose driven entreprise, the for-benefit sector, the business ethics movement. My question is, given that my personal experience has driven me to scepticism, how real is all that? what do you think are the prospects of such efforts?
First I would say that all that we experience today is paradoxically possible because of the speed infrastructures were buit up with commerical goals in mind. Commercialisation thus has brought more people into the web than any other way and have us talk daily and constantly to each other; now the exciting possibility is that the corporate machines see that they are much better off of in further supporting these peoples endavours than selling content to them. I dont even say that this development is likely to happen: BUT Communities and all those who want the web as a germ form of a cooperative economy at large - modeled creatively in relation to the two paradigms that we have allready, Wikipedia and FLOSS, better watch out and observe the concrete nature of the support companies give to community building instead of praising or denouncing businesses right away. My approach was is communities - if self-conscient communities do exist and if they even are able to ask such a question - might ask themselves what they would like to "outsource" to businesses and be clear at what cost. Of course we would like to do everything, but maybe we should focus on important things? One example: I would like that some business comes up with a hardware that enables people to share sight and sound of one location with another over broadband conncection. It is what we call "Video Bridge". Kind of mixer and scaler for everything that plugs in to a digital stream. If such hardware would exist at reasonable prices, it would cause an avalanche of educational places networking with each other and sharing their best offerings. This would create lots of needs for hardware and bandwidth, much beyond the dull and expensive Videoconferencing technology of today. This would, on the other hand, promote completely new networks of "fair use shared educational content". So the community is also the result of the process. Franz Nahrada ------------------------ PS some recent links from a debate in the distributedcreativity list http://www.whak.com/off/?202 A podcast interview with David Weinberger on social interaction on the web and web 2.0 . "Marketers seem to have picked up on the Cluetrain Manifesto in this years more than in the six previous years". http://www.pixelache.ac/2005/helsinki The Dot Org Boom http://www.sevensixfive.net/myspace/myspacetwopointoh.html A closer look at the new "social software" sites allowing people to share their contents. quote "Just as online social networking sites have found ways to turn the users into the distributers for the advertising medium, these sites have also created their venues in such a way that the users themselves provide all of the content that draws the traffic to the site. ~The set of content that is monetized on Myspace includes the users identities in the form of the profile pages that they fill out, it includes the users interactions in the form of the online conversations they have with their friends and the bulletins that they send out to keep in touch, and Myspace also claims ownership of any original work that is uploaded to the site by the users." _________________________________ Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ Contact: projekt oekonux.de
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