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[ox-en] Re: [ox-en] Re: [ox-en] built-in infinite growth (was: Re: Meaning ofmarkets, scarcity, abundance)


On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:32:14 [PHONE NUMBER REMOVED], Gregers Petersen <gp.ioa cbs.dk> wrote:


Dmytri Kleiner wrote:



There exist many examples of production-maximizing, yet pre-monetary and
pre-capitalist societies,
such as the Potlatch phenomenon of the Pacific Northwest.



could you be so kind to point towards the source of this statement, that
Potlatch equals production-maximizing ?


Hi Gregers, my impression from Mauss, etc, is that Potlatch created a cycle
of reciprocal ritualized gift exchange in which each cycle required more
production than
the previous.



Money's emergence does not come from market exchange, but rather as

tribute

and prestige-exchange. While money
exists in antiquity, the great majority of direct producers did not join
the money economy in their own exhange
relations until the industrial revolution, money was primaraly used as a
form of tribute and in the circulation
of prestige goods, which sometime _where_ money, i.e. Kula.



Regarding 'Kula' - the anthropological community has a number of years
ago reached the consensus that 'kula' is/where not money. So it might be
difficult to continue this assumption as an argument ...


Do you disagree with the claim that money originates in tribute and
prestige exchange and not exchange among
direct-producers?

You'll have to expand upon this if you expect to inform, rather than
attempt to use an appeal to authority regarding 
a possible technicality to cast doubt. 

Cheers.


-- 
Dmytri Kleiner
editing text files since 1981

http://www.telekommunisten.net


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