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Re: What is profit? (was: Re: [ox-en] Re: "At Cost")

Hey guys,

I have carefully read Stefan Mz's reply more than once, and am still
confused about what is being claimed.

I'm busy reading so I can
understand those special terms for a more fruitful discussion.

I do not agree with the apparent assertion that profit has something
to do with the worker; I see it as a measure of consumer dependence on
the Capital owners, but I do not yet have a clear explanation or proof
of that.

For now I will confine my questions to the following sentence:

Stefan Meretz wrote:
When competition is "perfect" then commodities are sold at their value.
The commodity value is the amount of necessary work to produce the
commodity at given level of societal productivity.

When you say "sold at their value" are you talking about the "costs of

If so, are you saying "consumer price" would equal "owner costs"?  If
so, then doesn't that mean profit would be zero?

1. Does Oekonux (or would a 'better' economy) strive to maximize
competition?  I'm not asking if perfect competition would be strictly
achieved, only whether or not it is our goal to increase competition.

2. As competition is maximized, do you see profit being minimized, or
is there no correlation?

3. If profit would be minimized, then wouldn't that "cut into" the
perceived reward due the worker according to Marx's claim that surplus
value belongs to the laborer?

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