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[jox] Re: Blanking sheet



Hi all!

I'm sorry that I need to come back to this, but I don't accept that
I'm accused of things which exist only in the heads of others.

I guess it is this snippet Mathieu relates to...

2 weeks (15 days) ago Mathieu ONeil wrote:
However _right now_ I and most others are focused on getting the
journal out. What I should have said is: "We need a 'time out' for
the process stuff. Let's come back to it once we have accomplished
the immediate goal."

...when he says (on [jox-tech]):

6 days ago Mathieu ONeil wrote:
What I strongly
objected to was dealing with this through endless debate _right now_
at the expense of content production:

That whole point got my attention two weeks ago when Mathieu said
similar things but I thought it would be better not to respond.
However, I'm not ready to accept pointless accusations.

So to make this finally clear: It was *not me* who wanted an endless
debate. I just needed a basis for starting an implementation. I also
wrote this (here on this list):

14 months (420 days) ago Stefan Merten wrote:
After getting somewhat confused I decided to write down a few things
and while writing them down structure them. From my experience in the
software business it is always a good idea to look first at the
"business" side of things. The result of my considerations is a couple
of use cases I identified. Please see

	http://cspp.oekonux.org/Members/smerten/requirements/use-cases

At the moment the use cases reflect some more or less arbitrary state
in the recent discussion and they are probably not complete.

Please do not misunderstand this page as making a decision. It's just
an attempt to write down the complexity somewhere so I can transform
it to technology later. Regardless of what the result of this
discussion will be it will be somewhat complex so something like this
is needed in any case.
[...]
Please have a look. Comments are welcome. (I feel Mathieu wants to
keep things on this mailing lists instead of the Plone site so
comments are better send here.)

I can't see how this can be understood as an invitation for endless
debate.

In fact after a year when Mathieu for a short moment stopped ignoring
this it was in fact *he* who needed to debate things. It would also
have been possible to simply accept it as is and improve it later.

I really hope this is the last I need to say about this very
unpleasant topic.


						Grüße

						Stefan


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