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Golden and green arrows (was: Re: [ox-en] Re: Open Money?)



Hi Benja and all,

B. Fallenstein wrote:

My point is that if we look only at how the things with use value move,
they are *already* in unidirectional flow. I'm having this diagram in
mind, where the movements of useful goods are green arrows and the
movements of money (or stock options or whatever) are golden arrows.
Then, in an animation, the golden arrows fade away. The remaining green
arrows show a rough approximation of what a GPL society could look like ;-)


This picture seems really quite rough, and I find it not desirable too. Commodities do have both sides: being a value and having some usefullness for someone. If you substract the being-a-value in mind, this implies, that goods are no longer produced as commodities, maybe they are no longer produced at all. On the other hand a lot of useful goods will emerge, because as commodities they could not be produced due to lack of value.


And this is exactly what should happen: Avoid producing bullshit due to no longer being a value, and producing useful goods and solving lots of problems based on selbstentfaltung, because people want to have that and they will take the time to do it.

This result in a complete rearrangment of production in the long run - although it does not need and destruction before: from a value oriented to a need based production. All golden arrow will vanish, however a lot of green arrows too -- replaced by new ones. This is my picture:-)

Ciao,
Stefan

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