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Re: [ox-en] Re: Empire-discussions (was Re: [rox] Invitation / Einladung 2. Oekonux-Konferenz)

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, MJ Ray wrote:

I'm surprised that subscribers on this list are using the term "intellectual
property".  Don't you mean "ideas"?

  I use the term "intellectual property", but when I use it I specifically
mean something I disagree with.  If we want to talk about copyright,
patents, trademarks, industrial design (etc, etc) then I can do so.  As
soon as the word 'property' is used, I discuss how these very diverse laws
do not describe a form of property.

I always reference the Thomas Jefferson quote I have on my home-page:


If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of 
exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, 
which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to 
himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the 
possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. 
Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because 
every other possesses the whole of it.

- Thomas Jefferson , 13 Aug. 1813

Any 'hardware assist' for communications, whether it be eye-glasses, 
VCR's, or personal computers, should be under the control of the citizen 
and not a third party.

- Me, 2002 

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