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2009/5/6 Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 gmail.com>
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I find it hard to read the email version of your table, if it is
available
elsewhere?
infoevo table is on the link, I put now in
http://frente28octubre.ning.com/profiles/blogs/evolucion-de-la-informacion-en
because original site is not working
the new table on mail, was redacted and thinked writing the mail, so its
new, I don't have other version, but I think could be usefull to do, so I
will do probably specifiing the type of scarcity removed for each
invention, and the subsecuent growth
progession table or progresive table I dont know
in spanish
tabla del progreso -evolucion- (economico) humano (ecoevo)
"progreso" is a very interesting -and not neutral- word
so two tables:
old , , in the link : infoevo
new, not writen yet, in the mail : infoeco
ok 3 tables, I love tables
but I'll check the link, perhaps it's there,
Michel
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Diego Saravia <diego.saravia gmail.com
wrote:
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I would like you to consider the case of fair trade for example, when
it
works as it is supposed to work. The organizing entity tries to
eliminate
rent-extraction by middlemen, allowing it to pay a more dignified
price
to
the producer, and asks for a little extra from conscious consumers.
This is a form of exchange which does not seek to maximalize 'the
most
return'; similarly, let's take a look at what is commonly called
social
entrepreneurship. The aim is to achieve a social goal, and the
corporate
form is used to achieve that goal. It is not necessary to strive for
maximum
return since the goal is social, and profit just a means.
So, we have exchange, but it works differently from classic
capitalism.
So
let's keep exchange separated from markets, and markets from
capitalism.
I agree
we can identify several human advancements and economic inventions over
time,
each one based in the previous one, but not imposed by it. We dont need
the
new one to have the step before.
- work - production - creation | human being (or another
working
creature)
-- exchange | surpluss (human
societies
after hunters and gatherers)
--- markets | points of exchange of
several producers and consumers
---- money | common agreed exchange
good
----- interest | capital: recognition
of
growth potencial of capital
------ capitalism | invention of rent of
capital
as other way of distribution of
earnings, end of
direct
coercion in work exchange, all exploitation
troughout capital
rent
--------- free informational goods
| end of copyright ,
economic potencial of information not as an economic good,
digital networks
and
free info flows, p2p info creation,
subsidized creation
-
rent of knowledge as attentional power and lidership,
explosive growth of
knowledge societies
------------- enviromental colapse of humankind, end of
civilization
| no comment
each step acelerated economic growth and eliminate a lot scarcity, and
stablish a growth in energy consumption and info flows
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:jcTbSI6yvlcJ:salta.org.ar/wiki/bin/view/SoftwareLibre/InfoEvo+infoevo&hl=es&strip=1
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