Re: [ox-en] No more money trickery propaganda please
- From: Alex Rollin <alex.rollin gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:24:58 +0200
I'm interested in that Franz, and I spend a lot of my time doing such things.
How do you go about it? What can you find out about how they run
their lives and how that matches the world they see and where they
think they are going?
That's how I get started with such a task. A lot of it comes down to
the language they use and the actual meaning they give it, coupled
with their personal operational experience with the structures.
My post on integral calculus is meant to offer a sort of descriptive
shorthand. Write to me if you want more information about that.
Specifically, it's a way of continually opening and narrowing the
conversation to find common ground to build on, along with working
towards a greater space or structure together. That structure is the
keynote and what's next.
We will find over time that as we have more opportunities to share
operation definitions of these systems that also have intersubjective
compoenents that the barriers between visions will dissolve amongst a
set of peers, while the barriers between peer groups will seem higher
than ever until they are transcended. The seeming dualism between the
masculine/feminine systems is an example of those seeming high
barriers.
A
A
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Franz Nahrada <f.nahrada reflex.at> wrote:
Michel Bauwens writes:
Regarding the views of Genevieve, it doesn't seem to me that they
understand
the non-reciprocal nature of free software, and rather subsume everything
to
the gift economy. I have the feeling their views are very binary, gift
economy = female = good; exchange = male = bad ...
OK but what if we are able to show them the trap they are locking
themselves into?
I have the feeling they give a very interesting keynote to a different
perception of reality that does not necessarily lead to where they end so
far. And maybe for those who question value, money and market this is
still a valid discussion partner.
Franz
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