Re: [ox-en] Re: Alternative exchange systems furthering GPL society?
- From: magius <gmagius gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:59:45 +0100
2005/11/7, Stefan Merten <smerten oekonux.de>:
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Hi Magius and all!
2 weeks (14 days) ago magius wrote:
In our model (FAZ), is possible to have "masters without slaves"
through free credit for all (not so different from Proudhon's
"People's Bank") issued in a currency that continuely looses value
(demurrage) and so is not possible to accumulate the currency,
"privatizing" it. Facilitating exchange instead of store of value,
imho, is possible to redisign money as a public tool.
You silentily assume that you can separate these functions of money. I
assume that these functions are closely interwoven and thus can not be
separated without making the whole thing useless.
Yes. In my vision demurrage is a non-ideological, minimalistic way to
start "killing" money. If you have strong demurrage taxes finally
you'll have no accumulation at all. The goal of a system like this,
basicly, is the governance of transition from capitalism to "something
other" (that I hope would be an ooekonux like system!) . Basicly
transition is a cultural problem. the "capitalism detoxication" for me
is gradual, for you is radical.
For instance in an exchange based system it is absolutely necessary to
accumulate frozen work / value / means of exchange to be able to start
bigger endeavors like building a bridge or some big production plant.
If you can not accumulate exchange value then you can simply not do
this because you have nothing to exchange with those working at the
building.
I agree. Your analysis is correct. As I said you, mine is not "the
best" project, it's only a very partial...therapy. I'm not a promoter
of nothing, I have not an ideological approach and I try to have a
pragmatic one (nothing to "defend", if I'll find something better and
reliable, I'll be the first killer of my system hahah).
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